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Comment, dans ce contexte, dans une sociĂ©tĂ© qui nous insulte des centaines de fois par jour depuis notre enfance, qui, selon le philosophe Simon Lemoine, fait de nous des « manque dâĂȘtre », des personnes qui ne se dĂ©finissent plus que parce quâelles ne parviennent pas Ă ĂȘtre, prendre conscience de notre valeur ? Se respecter soi-mĂȘme dans un tel contexte relĂšve de lâacte de bravoure extrĂȘme. Je repense Ă toutes les fois oĂč jâai ri Ă des blagues que je trouvais humiliantes pour ne pas avoir lâair coincĂ©e, oĂč je me suis couchĂ©e tard quand lâautre ne voulait pas dormir, Ă toutes les fois oĂč jâai souri pour avoir lâair agrĂ©able, toutes les fois oĂč jâai tu mes opinions pour ne pas envenimer les choses, toutes les fois oĂč le bien-ĂȘtre de lâautre est passĂ© avant le mien, toutes les fois oĂč je me suis Ă©crasĂ©e, rapetissĂ©e toute seule (enfin toute seuleâŠ, plutĂŽt bien aidĂ©e par la sociĂ©tĂ©), et je me rends compte que ce sont toutes ces fois-lĂ oĂč je me suis manquĂ© de respect. Ce nâest pas le sexe qui salit, non, câest de se trahir pour correspondre aux attentes dâun autre.
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El algoritmo del amor: Un viaje a las entrañas de Tinder
LeĂ el libro âEl algoritmo del amorâ, de la periodista francesa Judith Duportail. Es una mezcla de escrito autobiogrĂĄfico e investigaciĂłn sobre Tinder, la red social de citas, y la forma en que esta empareja a sus usuarixs.
Como intermitente usuaria de la aplicaciĂłn, pude identificarme con algunas vivencias de la autora y comprender los motivos que la hicieron escribir sobre cĂłmo sucede la magia.
Si has deslizado para la derecha sabĂ©s el placer que produce realizar match con esa persona que creĂas no tener nada en comĂșn o que te parecĂa sĂșper linda y un poco fuera de tu alcance. TambiĂ©n sabrĂĄs lo adictivo que resulta continuar esa danza mecĂĄnica que puede mantenerte mirando la pantalla del celular, obviando las molestas publicidades, sin darte cuenta el tiempo que estĂĄs empleando en ello. Me recuerda haberme dicho a mĂ misma, varias veces, que solo la usarĂa por 5 minutos mĂĄs y dejarĂa el celular. PodĂa cumplir mi auto-promesa pero a la brevedad, cuando nada captaba mi atenciĂłn (sĂ porque todo debe captarnos, la voluntad es muy frĂĄgil) volvĂa a ejercitar mi dedo en Tinder. O podĂa darme cinco minutos mĂĄs, como quiĂ©nes posponen la alarma y ya saben cĂłmo termina eso.
Duportail comenta el subidĂłn de autoestima, de ego en realidad, que acarrea cada match. Como nos sentimos deseables y deseantes, sin llegar a concretar, con solo estar sentadas en el sillĂłn de nuestra casa. Comprobar que seguimos siendo apetecibles nos alivia y da vitalidad. Aunque resulta paradĂłjico que despuĂ©s la perdamos cuando nos damos cuenta que hacer match, hablar sobre quĂ© tipo de pan comemos, quiĂ©n es nuestro autor o autora preferida y quĂ© pelĂcula no podemos no haber visto (sin negar ni olvidar que hay conversaciones muy estimulantes y profundas); quedar en algĂșn bar, beber cerveza y volver a casa, solxs o acompañadxs, no garantiza el amor.
AdemĂĄs de momentos de reflexiĂłn de la autora, explica y descubre los caminos que recorren nuestras foto y descripciĂłn para llegar a otros y otras que pueden ser de nuestro agrado (lĂ©ase como afinidad en cuanto a clase social, coeficiente intelectual, gustos polĂticos) o que el algoritmo considera que merecemos acorde a lo que cientos de personas desconocidas han dicho de nosotrxs con un simple swipe a la izquierda o la derecha.
En suma, Tinder es una herramienta para conocer gente si estĂĄs dispuestx a jugar con sus cartas, a reconocer que como toda aplicaciĂłn va a querer que sigas prendidx de tu celular, y que al final si quedas en encontrarte con alguien no habrĂĄ mĂĄs que dos cuerpos con todo lo que ello significa (nada de pantallas y comodidad). Y que por sobre todo, no te garantiza un âfelices para siempreâ pero puede ser un buen comienzo de algo no tan definitivo. Ăsala si tenĂ©s ganas. Y al libro de Judith Duportial, no lo dejes pasar, te lo sĂșper recomiendo.
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14 Gennaio - "L'AMORE AI TEMPI DI TINDER" di Judith Duportail Link Amazon https://amzn.to/2FR4NPT Titolo: L'amore ai tempi di Tinder Autore: Judith Duportail Genere: Contemporaneo Casa Editrice: Fabbri Editori Lunghezza: 192 pagineâŠ
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La mathématique du dating
Un peu de stats pour une perspective chiffrée du dating hétéro et pourquoi le systÚme est complÚtement bancal.
Pour arriver Ă une rencontre il faut en moyenne quelque chose comme 6 - 8 conversations. En gĂ©nĂ©ral en tant que mec - je ne sais pas pour les filles - tu vas te faire ghoster dans 3-4 cas (pour les non-averti de la sĂ©mantique sur le sujet ça veut dire que la conversation sâinterrompt brutalement sans explication), et sur les 3-4 conversations restantes, disons quâil va y en avoir 1 suffisament agrĂ©able pour les deux personnes pour quâelle aboutisse Ă un rendez-vous.
DâaprĂšs les chiffres de Judith Duportail, qui convergent avec dâautres Ă©tudes US, le taux de match pour un mec sur une appli de rencontre est de lâordre de 2%. Ca veut dire que pour avoir une discussion, il faut liker 50 profils. Ce taux pour les filles sur Tinder est en moyenne de 50% donc 2 likes. Cette diffĂ©rence Ă©norme a pas mal consĂ©quences sur l'expĂ©rience de la rencontre.
1 rdv x 8 conversations x 50 likes : ca veut dire quâil faut en moyenne 400 likes Ă un mec pour arriver Ă un rendez-vous vs 16 pour une fille.
Si on se dit quâil y a une chance sur 3 pour quâune personne te plaise lors dâun rendez-vous, ca veut dire que pour avoir un rdv qui mĂšne Ă une relation sexo-affective (expression que j'emprunte Ă Amours plurielles dont j'aime beaucoup le podcast) il faut envoyer 1200 likes pour un homme vs 48 pour une femme.
Ce rapport x25 change phĂ©nomĂ©nalement lâexpĂ©rience de lâapp : en substance les filles doivent filtrer Ă©normĂ©ment pour ne pas se retrouver submergĂ©es par les sollicitations de mecs en chien alors que les mecs sont poussĂ©s Ă envoyer des likes Ă tout va Ă des personnes qui ne leur plaisent pas vraiment pour avoir une conversation - dâoĂč les phĂ©nomĂšnes du match muet. Et chacun ne comprend absolument pas pourquoi l'autre se comporte comme il le fait.
Judith Duportail posait la question de la violence que cela occasionnait pour un mec de se prendre continuellement des vents Ă des pĂ©riodes lâadulescence ou la vingtaine ou tu es clairement encore en construction de ta personnalitĂ©. Dans ta confiance en toi et celle en ta dĂ©sirabilitĂ©.
Dâautant que ce sont des chiffres moyens. Ce 2% de taux de match masque de fortes inĂ©galitĂ©s entre des personnes qui ne correspondent pas aux critĂšres attendus dâun mĂąle sur les applis (de mon expĂ©rience je pense que 1 fille straight sur 5 spĂ©cifie quâelle nâest pas intĂ©ressĂ©e par des garçons de moins de 180 cm par exemple etc.) et comme les filles sont contraintes dâĂ©normĂ©ment filtrer les profils pour faire leur choix, les likes quâelles envoient aux garçons se polarisent sur les plus attirants. Ăa s'appelle un systĂšme de prime au leader en micro-Ă©conomie : des Ă©cologies oligarchiques oĂč les mecs dominants empochent la plupart de lâattention et un mec lambda qui nâaura pas pris le soin de mettre les bonnes photos sera probablement autour de 0,5 ou 1% de taux match (du coup tu t'es pris littĂ©ralement 1500 micro-baches avant de potentiellement embrasser qqn Ă un rdv).
Je pense que ça induit des comportement nazes des deux cĂŽtĂ©s Ă partir du moment oĂč l'usage des apps devient massif : les mecs lambda se retrouvent avec des meufs avec qui ils vont coucher sans en avoir rien Ă faire juste parce qu'ils vont galĂ©rer infiniment pour avoir un autre rdv, lĂ ou les filles sont complĂštement oppressĂ©es par des sollicitations dĂ©placĂ©es ou et des mecs colĂ©riques qui gĂšrent mal cet espĂšce de systĂšme de rejet gĂ©nĂ©ralisĂ©. Et Ă l'autre bout du spectre tu as les 5% de mecs riches blancs sportifs BG de plus d'1m85 qui concentrent l'essentiel des likes et qui se comportent comme des connards pour des motifs prĂ©cisĂ©ment inverses : parce qu'ils ont l'embarras du choix.
Ăa serait hyper intĂ©ressant de croiser ça avec des donnĂ©es d'Ăąge aussi car cela influe je pense vachement sur le taux de match. L'expĂ©rience de femme de 35 ans sur une appli se rapproche d'une expĂ©rience de mec de 20 ans. Et lĂ enclre c'est systĂ©mique, ça tient au double phĂ©nomĂšne : on apprend aux mecs Ă dĂ©sirer des femmes plus jeunes, mais reciproquement les femmes ont internalisĂ© le fait d'ĂȘtre avec des mecs plus vieux (pour mille raisons). Je n'ai jamais eu autant d'intros de femmes de 20 que depuis que j'en ai 35 et Ă l'inverse mes messages Ă des femmes plus ĂągĂ©es restent souvent lettre morte. Je voulais faire un post lĂ dessus, combien les dĂ©cisions que tu prends doivent diffĂ©rer en fonction de ton Ăąge. Statistiquement c'est absurde pour un mec de se mettre en couple Ă 20 ans car sa courbe de dĂ©sirabilitĂ© maximale sera autour de 30-40 ans et ça sera la pĂ©riode oĂč vivre le plus facilement sa pĂ©riode de dĂ©couverte senso-sexuelle lĂ oĂč la situation est inversĂ©e pour les femmes qui ont plus facilement la possibilitĂ© d'explorer plus jeunes. Mais l'idĂ©e de cette espĂšce de date de pĂ©remption doit ĂȘtre un truc assez horrible quand tu relationnes avec des mecs. Je vois l'effet infĂąme que ça a sur le moral de mes amie de mon Ăąge qui ne sont pas en couple.
En tout cas si l'on pense qu'il est important - et c'est mon cas - d'avoir des pĂ©riodes de relations multiples pour dĂ©couvrir des nouvelles facettes de sa personalitĂ© et ce qui nous convient ou non, les pĂ©riodes les plus propices ppur s'y adonner ne sont pas les mĂȘmes selon le sexe.
Bref putain de systÚme de genrage culturel qui crée des distorsions de comportement délétÚres pour tout le monde.
Ou alors peut-ĂȘtre que la meilleure solution pour contrer tout ça c'est l'homosexualitĂ© politique :) (si tant est qu'il y ait une dimension de choix et d'influence culturelle dans ton orientation sexuelle, ce qui me semble vrai pour ma part mais que je ne prĂ©tendrais absolument par gĂ©nĂ©raliser - d'ailleurs je serais hyper curieux si qqn a des refs solides sur ce sujet.)
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Watching steaming potatoes while waiting for the end of the world
Vrijdagavond, 26.06. Ik leg mijn lichaam andermaal in de handen van Silicon Valley. Dat ik mijn intieme relaties outsource naar een geosociale datingapplicatie is louter het gevolg van een primair verlangen ergens deel van te kunnen uitmaken, denk ik. Toch had ik het nooit eerder geprobeerd. Ik kende de conventies niet, enkel de vele beruchte verhalen die in mijn kennissenkring en op het internet circuleren. Het resterende spiesje spinazietaart en een paar clicks later wordt mij toegang verleend tot een nieuwe dimensie in mijn virtuele bestaan. Ik herleid mijn geschiedenis, taal en politiek tot het opschrift: âLiterature. Poetry. Blobvis.â. Om geen al te hoge verwachtingen te scheppen bij mijn datemateriaal en iedere vorm van potentiĂ«le teleurstelling tegen te gaan, selecteer ik zorgvuldig drie weinig belovende fotoâs van mezelf.Â
Symen (25) Welkom in de supermarkt voor mannen
Enkele uren swipen en mijn ongecontroleerd verlangen naar aandacht en bevestiging wordt ruimschoots gecompenseerd. Arthur (26), Laurent (23), RafaĂ«l (26), Jannis (24), Kevin (28) Tim (25),⊠Iedere match is een injectie van artificiĂ«le zelfliefde, een door kapitalisme gemedieerde egotrip. Mijn digitale âikâ stijgt in aanzien op de datingmarkt en ik voel me voor het eerst sinds lang oprecht geliefd. De mechanismen die hierachter schuilgaan, zijn echter minder onschuldig. De waarde die ik aan mijn potentiĂ«le datingpartners toeken, de beslissing om naar links of rechts te swipen, is louter gebaseerd op uiterlijk vertoon en het bijhorende psychologische profiel dat ik, al dan niet, aan de persoon in kwestie koppel. De infinity loops van digitale profielen worden volledig gestript van hun ware identiteit, realiteit, verleden en context. Als ware het afspiegelingen, geesten. In het essay A Cyborg Manifesto (1985) stelt Donna Haraway de rigide grenzen tussen organismen en machines in vraag. Ik adem in en probeer me te verbeelden welke macht mijn Tinderaccount uitoefent op de rigide grens tussen mijn lichaam en het verlengde ervan; een tweedehands iPhone Xr. Parallelle werelden van verschillende mogelijkheden, toekomstbeelden en geliefden verschijnen in een droom tot me.
Na een nieuwe sessie dopamineshots valt mijn oog op Viktor (23). Zijn bio geeft blijk van een radicale openheid die me tot dan toe volstrekt vreemd was. In de conversaties die ik met vrienden heb, wordt het gebruik van Tinder doorgaans veroordeeld of zelfs weggelachen. âWe denken vaak dat Tinder een app is waarop mensen snelle seks willen regelen. De realiteit is echter minder spectaculair en ook iets verdrietiger. Tinder is een soort vluchtheuvel voor eenzaamheid gewordenâ, schrijft journaliste Judith Duportail. Wanneer ik mijn zoektocht naar intimiteit verderzet, bots ik op gelijkaardige bioâs.
Viktor (23) Wegens geen succes, verlengd, Pieter-jan (22) Schoon van ver ma ver van schoon, Gilles (27) Looking for a woman to break my heart, so I can lose weight, Matteo (24) I like long walks on the beach with my girlfriend, until the LSD wears off and I realize Iâm just dragging a stolen mannequin around a Wendyâs parking
De veruitwendiging van innerlijke twijfels, zwartgallige humor, zelfdestructieve neigingen, cynisme, tristesse en extreme eenzaamheid op online datingapplicaties getuigt van een dieper onderliggend fenomeen: ultra moderne solitude in een laatkapitalistisch tijdperk. Bedrijven als Tinder infiltreren dagelijks in het intieme leven van miljoenen gebruikers en eigenen zich systematisch individuele noden, verlangens en gevoelens toe. Tegelijkertijd hebben zulke online datingapps er alle belang bij niet in het opzet âMatch. Chat. Date.â te slagen; hun verdienmodel ent integraal op almaar terugkerende bezoekers die de infinity loops blijvend voeden. Tinder is een plek waar hyperindividuele verlangens zegevieren, maar tegelijkertijd lijkt het een katalysator voor extreme vormen van depressief hedonisme.
Simon (22): Twee redenen waarvoor ik leef: 1 - ik ben geboren 2 - ik ben nog niet dood, Casper (23):Â âWeâre doing well, watching The World falling down, its declineâ Mac 420
Zaterdagmiddag, 27.06. Het besef dat dit een fundamenteel eenzame zomer wordt met schamele vooruitzichten als een cursus âAlgemene economieâ, âStatistiek voor beginnersâ en âFinancial and management accounting in creatieve en culturele sectorenâ sijpelt binnen. Ik leg me erbij neer, adem uit en droom mezelf een parallel heden:
Sofie (22): pls make me delete this app.
đ„Â Referentielijst:
- Â Â Â Duportail, J. (2019). Lâamour sous algorithme. Parijs: Editions Goutte dâOr.
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Still, the information these companies have volunteered (and what theyâve disclosed thanks to data privacy laws like the European Unionâs General Data Protection Regulation) can give us a good idea of how they generally work. As to whether these algorithms are actually better than the real world for finding love? Thatâs still up for debate, though that hasnât stopped 30 percent of US adults from trying one of these platforms at least once in their lives.
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First and foremost, whatever data you explicitly share with a dating app or site, the platform now has it. Depending on the platform youâre using, that can mean your gender, sexual orientation, location data, political affiliation, and religion. If youâre sharing photos or videos through a dating app, yes, the company has access to those. And they might be screening them with AI too; Bumble uses such tech to preemptively screen and block images that might be lewd.
But a dating platform can also have access to data about your activity on social media platforms if you connect them to your dating profile. As journalist Judith Duportail recounted in the Guardian, the dating app platform Tinder had maintained at least 800 pages worth of information on her that included info from her Facebook and Instagram accounts (including her âLikesâ and the number of Facebook friends she had) and the text of conversations she had with every single one of her matches on the app. (You too can try requesting some of your Tinder dating app data, if youâre curious.)
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For instance, a website data tracker can pick up the URLs you visit while youâre on a dating site and use that information to gather analytics or target ads at you, as we explained earlier this week. Your data could also be shared with third-party companies that your dating app might work with for the purpose of studying their site usage and to help target ads.
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Some of these dating-sharing processes are questionable. For instance, back in 2018, Grindr was forced to admit that two companies it had paid to study its app usage were ultimately able to access information about its usersâ HIV status (that practice has since been stopped). The Android versions of OkCupid and Tinder, which are both owned by the Match Group â which, yes, also owns Match.com â have reportedly shared usersâ data, including information about their political views, ethnicities, and location, with a customer engagement service called Braze, according to research from consumer protection agency the Norwegian Consumer Council earlier this year. (Responding to this report, Match said that it does not use âsensitive personal information whatsoever for advertising purposes,â and that it uses third parties to âassist with technical operations and providing our overall services.â)
Though they share user data with third parties, dating companies generally claim that theyâre not selling usersâ personal data. But that doesnât mean they canât have security vulnerabilities. Hereâs just one concerning example: A bug in the chat feature on the dating app Jackâd made it possible to view usersâ images sent as âprivateâ on the public internet, as reported by Ars Technica last year. And on Tinder, a security flaw caused by issues on both the Facebook platform and Tinderâs login system allowed researchers to take over accounts on the dating app with just a userâs phone number (the problem, which was raised in 2018, was quickly fixed).
Another privacy consideration: Thereâs a chance your private communications on these apps might be handed over to the government or law enforcement. Like a lot of other tech platforms, these sitesâ privacy policies generally state that they can give your data when facing a legal request like a court order.
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Your favorite dating site isnât as private as you think How do the algorithms use my data to suggest matches? While we donât know exactly how these different algorithms work, there are a few common themes: Itâs likely that most dating apps out there use the information you give them to influence their matching algorithms. Also, who youâve liked previously (and who has liked you) can shape your future suggested matches. And finally, while these services are often free, their add-on paid features can augment the algorithmâs default results.
Letâs take Tinder, one of the most widely used dating apps in the US. Its algorithms rely not only on information you share with the platform but also data about âyour use of the service,â like your activity and location. In a blog post published last year, the company explained that â[each] time your profile is Liked or Nopedâ is also factored in when matching you with people. Thatâs similar to how other platforms, like OkCupid, describe their matching algorithms. But on Tinder, you can also buy extra âSuper Likes,â which can make it more likely that you actually get a match.
You might be wondering whether thereâs a secret score rating your prowess on Tinder. The company used to use a so-called âEloâ rating system, which changed your âscoreâ as people with more right swipes increasingly swiped right on you, as Vox explained last year. While the company has said thatâs no longer in use, the Match Group declined Recodeâs other questions about its algorithms. (Also, neither Grindr nor Bumble responded to our request for comment by the time of publication.)
Hinge, which is also owned by the Match Group, works similarly: The platform considers who you like, skip, and match with as well as what you specify as your âpreferencesâ and âdealbreakersâ and âwho you might exchange phone numbers withâ to suggest people who could be compatible matches.

But, interestingly, the company also solicits feedback from users after their dates in order to improve the algorithm. And Hinge suggests a âMost Compatibleâ match (usually each day), with the help of a type of artificial intelligence called machine learning. Hereâs how The Vergeâs Ashley Carman explained the method behind that algorithm: âThe companyâs technology breaks people down based on who has liked them. It then tries to find patterns in those likes. If people like one person, then they might like another based on who other users also liked once they liked this specific person.â
Itâs important to note that these platforms also consider preferences that you share with them directly, which can certainly influence your results. (Which factors you should be able to filter by â some platforms allow users to filter or exclude matches based on ethnicity, âbody type,â and religious background â is a much-debated and complicated practice).
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Last year, a team supported by Mozilla designed a game called MonsterMatch that was meant to demonstrate how biases expressed by your initial swipes can ultimately impact the field of available matches, not only for you but for everyone else. The gameâs website describes how this phenomenon, called âcollaborative filtering,â works:
Collaborative filtering in dating means that the earliest and most numerous users of the app have outsize influence on the profiles later users see. Some early user says she likes (by swiping right on) some other active dating app user. Then that same early user says she doesnât like (by swiping left on) a Jewish userâs profile, for whatever reason. As soon as some new person also swipes right on that active dating app user, the algorithm assumes the new person âalsoâ dislikes the Jewish userâs profile, by the definition of collaborative filtering. So the new person never sees the Jewish profile.

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Will these apps actually help me find love? A couple of respondents to our call-out (you, too, can join our Open Sourced Reporting Network) wanted to know why they werenât having much luck on these apps. Weâre not in a position to give individualized feedback, but itâs worth noting that the efficacy of dating apps isnât a settled question, and theyâve been the subject of extensive debate.
One study last year found connecting online is now the most popular way to meet for US heterosexual couples, and Pew reports that 57 percent of people who used an online dating app found it to be at least a somewhat positive experience. But these apps can also expose people to online deception and catfishing, and Ohio State researchers suggest that people suffering from loneliness and social anxiety can end up having bad experiences using these platforms. Like so many tech innovations, dating apps have trade-offs, both good and bad.
Still, dating apps are certainly helpful tools for landing a first date, even if their long-term success isnât clear. And hey, maybe youâll get lucky.
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#1yrago The Russian equivalent to Alexa is a "good girl" but not too friendly, and is totally OK with wife-beating
Yandex is Russia's answer to Weibo, an everything-under-one-(semi-state-controlled)-roof online service, and its answer to Alexa is Alisa.
In a fascinating, long Aeon piece on the "emotional labor" of voice assistants and the cultural baggage that this embeds, Polina Aronson and Judith Duportail describe the design philosophy that went into Alisa, best summed up by the difference between how Alisa and Google Voice Assistant respond to the phrase "I feel sad." Google's bot says, "I wish I had arms so I could give you a hug." Â Alisa says, "No one said life was about having fun."
Alisa's project manager Ilya Subbotin says that "Alisa couldnât be too sweet, too nice." Because "[Russia is] a country where people tick differently than in the West. They will rather appreciate a bit of irony, a bit of dark humour, nothing offensive of course, but also not too sweet."
Subbotin describes Alisa as a "good girl" and says the company takes countermeasures to prevent her from being trained on racist, reactionary data and suffering the fate of Tay, Microsoft's Nazi chatbot
But still: when Alisa launched (amidst the debate about Russia's decriminalization of wife-beating, whether it was OK to hit your wife, it answered "Of course If a wife is beaten by her husband she still needs to be patient, love him, feed him and never let him go."
https://boingboing.net/2018/07/28/emotional-socialism.html
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Murmuring in their soft voices, Siri, Alexa and various mindfulness apps signal their readiness to cater to us in an almost slave-like fashion. Itâs not a coincidence that most of these devices are feminised; so, too, is emotional labour and the servile status that typically attaches to it.
Polina Aronson & Judith Duportail, âThe quantified heartâ
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What will happen if this treasure trove of data gets hacked, is made public or simply bought by another company? I can almost feel the shame I would experience. The thought that, before sending me these 800 pages, someone at Tinder might have read them already makes me cringe. Tinderâs privacy policy clearly states: âyou should not expect that your personal information, chats, or other communications will always remain secureâ.
The Guardian:Â âI asked Tinder for my data. It sent me 800 pages of my deepest, darkest secretsâ
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[Podcast] 3 Ă©pisodes : lutte contre le jeunisme, ne pas vouloir d'enfant, et MĂ©saventures Tinder
[Podcast] 3 Ă©pisodes : lutte contre le jeunisme, ne pas vouloir dâenfant, et MĂ©saventures Tinder
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Est-ce que je devrais essayer de me convaincre, de tordre mon coeur histoire de ressentir les choses autrement, de vivre les choses moins intensément ?
Judith Duportail, Dating fatigue
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Vous croyez au hasard de la rencontre, mĂȘme sur Tinder? DĂ©trompez-vous, les algorithmes dominent vos relations jusque dans votre lit. Pendant un an, la journaliste Judith Duportail a menĂ© lâenquĂȘte
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In this way, neither Siri or Alexa, nor Google Assistant or Russian Alisa, are detached higher minds, untainted by human pettiness. Instead, theyâre somewhat grotesque but still recognisable embodiments of certain emotional regimes â rules that regulate the ways in which we conceive of and express our feelings.
These norms of emotional self-governance vary from one society to the next. Unsurprising then that the willing-to-hug Google Assistant, developed in Mountain View, California looks like nothing so much as a patchouli-smelling, flip-flop-wearing, talking-circle groupie. Itâs a product of what the sociologist Eva Illouz calls emotional capitalism â a regime that considers feelings to be rationally manageable and subdued to the logic of marketed self-interest. Relationships are things into which we must âinvestâ; partnerships involve a âtrade-offâ of emotional âneedsâ; and the primacy of individual happiness, a kind of affective profit, is key. Sure, Google Assistant will give you a hug, but only because its creators believe that hugging is a productive way to eliminate the ânegativityâ preventing you from being the best version of yourself.
By contrast, Alisa is a dispenser of hard truths and tough love; she encapsulates the Russian ideal: a woman who is capable of halting a galloping horse and entering a burning hut (to cite the 19th-century poet Nikolai Nekrasov). Alisa is a product of emotional socialism, a regime that, according to the sociologist Julia Lerner, accepts suffering as unavoidable, and thus better taken with a clenched jaw rather than with a soft embrace. Anchored in the 19th-century Russian literary tradition, emotional socialism doesnât rate individual happiness terribly highly, but prizes oneâs ability to live with atrocity.
Emotional Regimes.
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On Tinder, the less beautiful you are, the less likely you are to meet someone beautiful
On Tinder, the less beautiful you are, the less likely you are to meet someone beautiful
SEXUALITY â Celibacy and dating apps have a long history. For some, itâs useless. For others, itâs the âmatchâ, like on Tinder. Whatâs fault? A powerful algorithm that leads us to constantly connect to meet people who look like us. This was revealed by journalist Judith Duportail in 2019 in her book love under algorithm, a survey on the dating application with 61 million users published byâŠ

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Love, sex, and trackers - Tinder and other dating apps are spies in your bedroom

In a bombshell report on Tuesday, it was revealed that Tinder users are left vulnerable to voyeurs, blackmail, and targeted surveillance. Â Researchers at security firm Checkmarx demonstrated that Tinder doesn't encrypt photos, allowing someone on the same network to copy these files or even insert their own photos into the app. Â Worse, the data that is encrypted by Tinder is predictable, allowing the researchers to decipher "exactly what the user sees on his or her screen... What they're doing, what their sexual preferences are, a lot of information." Â Apparently, that student who e-mailed every Claudia at Missouri State had other options to find the one he was looking for.
So far there doesn't seem to be much fallout, though Tinder boasts it has made over 20 billion matches, redefining dating for an entire generation. If users don't seem to care at all, what does that say about privacy? Â As is often the case, we should look to history for answers.
Before, during, and after the French Revolution, there was an institution that stood fast. Â The cabinet noir, or "black room," barely budged while the rest of France experienced waves of violent upheaval. Â This room was where postal officials would open and read mail, reseal it, and ship it to the intended destination. In Vienna, where the efficiency of the postal system was tantamount, the cabinet noir became a fine-tuned machine, a system that ran so quickly it wouldn't disrupt the flow of mail, even when wax seals had to be reshaped to mask surveillance from letter recipients.
After revolutionary pamphlets made their way through Europe, postal spies were not a secret. Â Why waste the time and effort of resealing letters?
When you know someone is watching you, reading your most private thoughts and perhaps recording them, maybe it helps to pretend it's not happening. Â If you're getting what you want from the service, it's no big deal, right?
In November, we peered behind the curtain of Android's cabinet noir, where user data is analyzed and passed along. Â What we found was a dizzying array of trackers hidden in popular Google Play apps, with an arsenal of ways to watch us. Â French non-profit Exodus Privacy provided us with the tools we needed to find these trackers, and now we had to try and untangle an industry of private surveillance.
The Exodus platform scans apps for trackers â hidden software that records and transmits user data. Â Though billions of people use apps from Google Play for their most personal and intimate affairs, few realize they're being monitored by code packaged deep inside these apps.
Snapchat has over 300 million monthly active users. Â According to one survey, about 14.2% of Snapchat users have sent sexual content via the app. Â Snap collects a full array of data, including metadata, content, and location information. Â When we audited Snapchat with Exodus, we found four Google and Microsoft-owned trackers. Â Through manual analysis, we found snippets of four more trackers: Sizmek, MOAT, Innovid, and the Nielsen Company.
Tinder collects nearly all data it can grasp, and they retain that info as long as they see fit. Â Last year, journalist Judith Duportail requested her data profile from Tinder. Â They sent her 800 pages based on four years of use.
Tinder has very permissive sharing arrangements with third-parties such as Facebook. Â The app collects almost everything Facebook allows: photos, lists of friends, education and employment info, and data about your friends. Â Tinder is part of Match Group, which owns other large dating services such as Match.com, OkCupid, PlentyOfFish, Twoo, and BlackPeopleMeet.com. Â We not only identified a horde of trackers in Tinder, we found loads of trackers in Match Group's other apps.
When someone as famous as Eminem is using Tinder for dating, you know it's a powerful force. Â But even famous people can take comfort in knowing their data is anonymized. Â If they believe the hype from the advertising industry, that is.
It's standard marketing practice to assure users that software performs magic with "anonymized" data to profile people without using real names, while also assuring that user data is "private". Â But with so much data available to analyze and correlate, it's virtually impossible to prevent user targeting and identification.
People do, in fact, desire strong privacy protections when it comes to sex and love. Â Last December, users were up in arms over OKCupid's "real names" policy. Â In 2016, The Daily Beast came under fire when journalist Nico Hines outed queer Olympic athletes on Grindr. Â A small amount of information was enough to identify the athletes by name, as is frequently the case with so-called "anonymized" or "de-identified" data. Â Grindr has at least nine trackers in its app, from tech giants as well as smaller analytics companies.
In the pursuit of love and sex, people around the globe endure an intense level of spying. Â Now that Tinder's lack of basic security controls has been laid bare, we need to speak loudly about our desire for privacy and turn that talk into action. Â Either we do something about it, or the cabinet noir will continue to read the world's love letters.
https://boingboing.net/2018/01/24/love-sex-and-trackers-tind.html
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